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Exotic Weapons and Psions

Post by slave.of.emotions » Thu May 12, 2005 12:37 pm

As i wanted to pick up exotic weapons feat as psion i could not see it on any lvl in feat selection screen.

Same happens with ambidexterity.
Then they description says that they gain feat for medium armors free but i got only feat for light armors.

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Post by Gairus » Thu May 12, 2005 1:23 pm

My psion, Luagha, has Exotic weapon proficiency. Are you sure this is a level for an actual feat and not just your psionic feats?

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Post by slave.of.emotions » Thu May 12, 2005 1:41 pm

Gairus wrote:My psion, Luagha, has Exotic weapon proficiency. Are you sure this is a level for an actual feat and not just your psionic feats?
Yes i am, and i can take it with my first class, but not as psion, did you take that feat as you was leveling as psion or in your other class ?

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Post by NWDuneAuron » Thu May 12, 2005 1:44 pm

Are you sure you have the BAB requirement?

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Post by Gairus » Thu May 12, 2005 3:23 pm

I do not recall when I took it :(

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Post by slave.of.emotions » Thu May 12, 2005 3:39 pm

NWDuneAuron wrote:Are you sure you have the BAB requirement?


Yes, i was lvl 1 monk, lvl 1 outsider, lvl 3 psion, when i wanted to take psion i could not pick ambidexterity and exotic weapons, when i selected monk then both were displayed in feat selection.

I do not recall when I took it :(
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Post by Wombatforhire » Thu May 12, 2005 4:36 pm

Don't monks get +1 BAB at lvl two? Do psions get +1 at lvl 4?

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Post by Moredo » Thu May 12, 2005 6:35 pm

Monk and Psion BAB gain is the same and it goes like this:

0 1 2 3 3 4 5 6 6 7 8 9 9 10 11 12 12 13 14 15

3 every 4th lvls to a total of 15 BAB at lvl 20.

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Post by Starslayer_D » Fri May 13, 2005 3:26 am

Ambidexterity needs a DEX of 15 as prerequisite.

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Post by slave.of.emotions » Fri May 13, 2005 9:39 am

Yes, i was lvl 1 monk, lvl 1 outsider, lvl 3 psion, when i wanted to take psion i could not pick ambidexterity and exotic weapons, when i selected monk then both were displayed in feat selection.
= lvl 5, i am sure my BAB was more then one on that lvl, so on lvl 6 both feats should be displayed :roll:

again... i had all prerequisites , i could take it when i took monk instead of psion , with same char and on same level.

all those feats including medium armors that should be grandet them on level 1 are missed in cls_feat_psion.2da
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Post by Enverex » Fri May 13, 2005 10:35 am

slave.of.emotions wrote:
Yes, i was lvl 1 monk, lvl 1 outsider, lvl 3 psion, when i wanted to take psion i could not pick ambidexterity and exotic weapons, when i selected monk then both were displayed in feat selection.
= lvl 5, i am sure my BAB was more then one on that lvl, so on lvl 6 both feats should be displayed :roll:

again... i had all prerequisites , i could take it when i took monk instead of psion , with same char and on same level.

all those feats including medium armors that should be grandet them on level 1 are missed in cls_feat_monk.2da
Monks shouldn't get Medium armor profitiency as if they wear any form of armour at all they lose all their abilities...

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Post by slave.of.emotions » Fri May 13, 2005 11:30 am

Enverex wrote:
slave.of.emotions wrote:
Yes, i was lvl 1 monk, lvl 1 outsider, lvl 3 psion, when i wanted to take psion i could not pick ambidexterity and exotic weapons, when i selected monk then both were displayed in feat selection.
= lvl 5, i am sure my BAB was more then one on that lvl, so on lvl 6 both feats should be displayed :roll:

again... i had all prerequisites , i could take it when i took monk instead of psion , with same char and on same level.

all those feats including medium armors that should be grandet them on level 1 are missed in cls_feat_monk.2da
Monks shouldn't get Medium armor profitiency as if they wear any form of armour at all they lose all their abilities...
ehm sorry i mean cls_feat_psion.2da

apareantly feats like ambidexterity and weapon feats must be listed there to be selectable.

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Post by Enverex » Fri May 13, 2005 5:26 pm

slave.of.emotions wrote:
Enverex wrote:
slave.of.emotions wrote: = lvl 5, i am sure my BAB was more then one on that lvl, so on lvl 6 both feats should be displayed :roll:

again... i had all prerequisites , i could take it when i took monk instead of psion , with same char and on same level.

all those feats including medium armors that should be grandet them on level 1 are missed in cls_feat_monk.2da
Monks shouldn't get Medium armor profitiency as if they wear any form of armour at all they lose all their abilities...
ehm sorry i mean cls_feat_psion.2da

apareantly feats like ambidexterity and weapon feats must be listed there to be selectable.
Not true, check the other races cls_feat_xxxx.2da and you'll see that they also don't have things like that listed. These are the bonus feat tables, not the standard feat tables.

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Post by slave.of.emotions » Sat May 14, 2005 2:45 am

I did, and only following cls_feat_<class> miss something:

cls_feat_druid: Misses all weapons feats excapt WeapProfDruid - and he can not select any other weapons feats (as it should be)

cls_feat_palema: misses weapon feats - could not select them in game when leveling, tested just now.

it seems that some feats need to be listed there so that for example druids can be prevented from taking those.

part of cls_feat_cler.2da for example:

Code: Select all

2DA V2.0

           FeatLabel                             FeatIndex   List   GrantedOnLevel   OnMenu
0          ExtTurn                               13          0      -1               0
1          SpellFocusCon                         166         0      -1               0
2          SpellFocusDiv                         167         0      -1               0
3          SpellFocusEnc                         168         0      -1               0
4          SpellFocusEvo                         169         0      -1               0
5          SpellFocusIll                         170         0      -1               0
6          SpellFocusNec                         171         0      -1               0
7          SpellFocusTra                         172         0      -1               0
8          SpellFocusAbj                         35          0      -1               0
9          WeapProfSim                           46          3      1                0
10         ArmProfLgt                            3           3      1                0
11         ArmProfMed                            4           3      1                0
12         ArmProfHvy                            2           3      1                0
13         Shield                                32          3      1                0
14         TurnUndead                            294         3      1                1
15         WeapProfEx                            44          0      -1               0
16         WeapProfMar                           45          0      -1               0
17         DefArrow                              8           0      -1               0
18         Quicken                               29          0      -1               0
19         TwoWeap                               41          0      -1               0
20         Ambidex                               1           0      -1               0
21         DivineMight                           413         0      -1               1
22         DivineShield                          414         0      -1               1
23         GrSpllFcsAbj                          393         1      -1               0
24         GrSpllFcsCnj                          394         1      -1               0
25         GrSpllFcsDiv                          395         1      -1               0
26         GrSpllFcsEnch                         396         1      -1               0

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Post by Kyprioth » Sat May 14, 2005 6:44 am

Umm you get non-psion feats at lvl 6, not lvl 5

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Post by Kyprioth » Sat May 14, 2005 6:44 am

Oh, right, you are lvling up To lvl 6... my bad

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